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AN
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Sep-23-08, 07:21 PM (PST)
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"Need cheap/creative roach fix"
 
   I'm in a position to give some limited insect control advice to a family, but they have a real dilemma.

Here's the situation:
1) Kitchen has upwards of 1 roach per square foot and more than triple that at night,
2) Food and especially water are readily available to the roaches and significantly limiting these is NOT practical,
3) The budget for roach control looks to be about $15 a month at most...

Yes, I know this situation calls for professionals (not necessarily of the pest control variety), but see point #3.

I was thinking liberal use of food-grade diatomaceous earth might help. What about something creative like introducing house centipedes or spiders? Any ideas, given the constraints?


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rjb
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Sep-24-08, 04:33 PM (PST)
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1. "RE: Need cheap/creative roach fix"
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   LAST EDITED ON Sep-24-08 AT 05:05 PM (PST)
 
I have no experience with that large an infestation. Years ago I bought a pint of TangleFoot sticky gunk from BioQuip. If I see crickets or cockroaches, I just take a flat plastic lid, smear a ring of sticky stuff around it and put a little food in the center. The sticky traps from the store seem much less effective, probably because my design is flat with the ground requiring no climbing by the baby cockroaches and I place something really attractive on it. A few of those seems to catch all the cockroaches. Of course pets mustn't be allowed to stick their nose in it. I doubt it would work if the cockroaches have abundant food that they like more than the bait.

Of course your problem as presented is absurd. It's like saying "I put out bowls of cream and tunafish on my patio everyday but I can't get rid of all the cats." What you need to do is keep the food away from the cockroaches. When I have pests come to "food", like where I'm raising insect cultures, I suspend all the "food" on a platform, even just an inch high and put sticky gunk around the feet beneath the platform. You have to keep the food away from the pest somehow.
Rick


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AN
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Sep-24-08, 06:25 PM (PST)
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2. "RE: Need cheap/creative roach fix"
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   Well, thank you for the sticky trap tip; I'll suggest the TangleFoot. I agree that the problem is absurd, and may in fact use your analogy.

Any thoughts about the diatomaceous earth? I've read that it's quite safe as long as one doesn't breathe it, and that it's fairly effective in low humidity environments. Do you have any experience with the stuff?


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rjb
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Sep-25-08, 09:24 AM (PST)
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3. "RE: Need cheap/creative roach fix"
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   I'm a chemist so I don't have any problems with poisons used properly. I have tried diatomaceous earth for some pests and it has not worked for me (I am in a low humidity environment-New Mexico.) I usually go for a poison, often boric acid for ants and roaches.

If you think about the rate of cockroach reproduction, you will probably decide trapping is hopeless. If you feed them, they will keep ahead of any trapping or killing approaches. My wife suggests changing your paradigm. Think of the cockroaches as pets. You are feeding them and providing a happy home for them. If you don't like them as pets, stop feeding them.
Rick


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Dynastes granti
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Nov-02-08, 07:10 AM (PST)
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4. "RE: Need cheap/creative roach fix"
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   I successfully control roaches and ants with boric acid, which is available at most building supply places as well as WalMart. Here is a Japanese recipe using boric acid I found on the internet:

"Since moving to Florida, our home has been infested with roaches. There is an old remedy that the Japanese people use. that includes white flour, boric acid, and powdered sugar.

Mix equal amounts of boraci acid and flour. Then add just enough confectioners sugar to attract the roaches. Add just enough water to make a soft dough. Roll the dough into little balls and place in the little candy paper cups (like the cups muffins come in). Place the balls in corners of cupboards and behind fruniture where other animal life cannot reach. The roaches eat this and it causes them to dry out. It takes about two to three weeks before they will be completely gone. Replace the boric acid balls every month to ensure that there is no reinfestation."


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Nov-02-08, 10:49 AM (PST)
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5. "RE: Need cheap/creative roach fix"
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   HERE'S A CHEAP CONTROL METHOD.

Roaches like masking tape glue. Take the masking tape and line the edge of a door jamb with it so that half of the tape is sticking outward. The cockroaches are attracted to the glue, climb onto the tape and start eating the glue, but they get stuck in the process. Result: roach strips.
Works very well.
Jeff Prill


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jhowens
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Nov-03-08, 02:25 PM (PST)
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6. "RE: Need cheap/creative roach fix"
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   >I successfully control roaches and ants with boric acid,
>which is available at most building supply places as well as
>WalMart. Here is a Japanese recipe using boric acid I found
>on the internet:
>

Slight modification to this method:

Get Boric Acid CRYSTALS and dissolve them in water, an ounce or so to a quart. Use CRYSTALS because the POWDER is very hard to dissolve. Fill up a sprayer and spray EVERYWHERE. Spraying also allows you to get into places that you cannot otherwise get into, like cracks, around pipe-holes, etc. When the solution evaporates, you are left with a very fine layer of Boric Acid all over everything. A little goes a long way.

I forget the actual chemistry around this, but it boils down to something like this: The Boric Acid has no odor, so the roaches do not avoid it. They (the roaches) are naturally "clean" insects that constantly groom themselves. The Boric Acid gets into their systems and "eats" them from the inside. They do not develop immunity to it and never "learn" to avoid it (both traits with normal poisons), so it keeps on working. On a positive side, Boric Acid is relatively non-harmful to anything else that might exist in the area, such as cats, dogs, and children.

Joe.
My opinions only, your mileage will vary.


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BugBarb
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May-29-09, 11:59 AM (PST)
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7. "RE: Need cheap/creative roach fix"
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   So what was the method ultimately used?
what was the outcome?
I'm curious.

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